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svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:26:00 -
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I read that whole thing, and I sympathize. |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:39:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Rordan D'Kherr wrote:tl;dr? TL;DR OMG I AM TRAPPED IN A PERMANENT WAR WITH A TOTALLY INACTIVE CORP WHICH MEANS, DESPITE THEM ALL BEING INACTIVE, I HAVE TO DISBAND MY CORP THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 10 YEARS AND IT IS CCP'S FAULT. PS I CAN'T USE MY ENTER KEY I hope that helps.
Was it not something about not being able to join new alliance because of game mechanics? I can't bother reading it twice. |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:51:00 -
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teroarea wrote:Simetraz wrote:Just 2 questions why did you try and leave the alliance instead of just riding it out.
What was the point of entering the alliance to begin with.
Second if you are under a permanent war dec and nobody is active in the corp then why does it matter if you are at war or not.
I am a little confused at what you want CCP to do.
Oh and last what kind of time frame are we talking here.
Have you been at war for several months now or something ?
Because of this everlasting war the Romania Renegades corporation cannot join any allaince ......this is the game mechanics .... we cannot apply to any alliance while in war status ...in our case the happy endings alliance has began this war
that is what I thought you said and that is ****** up and you have my sympathy if this is the case. |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:54:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Weaselior wrote:how did an inactive corporation make your war mutual
seems you're lying here, buddy They aren't inactive, they just haven't sent the ransom demand yet.
If no ransom it must be a predator. |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.25 18:02:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:I don't believe the issue is that they can't leave the alliance, the issue is that they didn't leave quickly enough and the war will follow them where ever they go.
You could simply try the surrender option and offer them some ISK.
If they are inactive and don't respond you are in no worse situation than now, if they accept it situation resolved. Nobody would think badly of you for taking that path to get out of a war with an inactive corp playing games like that.
I'll have to brush up on the mechanics involved in a mutual war dec, but if I remember correctly they need some improvement in regards to this specific issue. Perhaps instead of a mutual war dec being free instead both sides might pay a reduced fee (one that cannot be automatically paid)... which would help to keep totally inactive corps from pulling stuff like this. The defender would still have the option to lock in the aggressor, but would have to pay a modest fee for the privilege, as well as take responsibility for manually paying the fee.
If they can join another alliance just the war carries with them, they should and deal with it, now I am starting to lose sympathy for OP. |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.25 18:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:svenska flicka wrote:If they can join another alliance just the war carries with them, they should and deal with it, now I am starting to lose sympathy for OP. Presumably, since they were part of the alliance that started the way, they are considered the aggressors of the war (even when they leave the alliance itself since the war is copied over), and as such are not allowed to join a new alliance. Being the aggressor corp is the only case where a wardec mechanically blocks anything you want to do.
Well then I do sympathize, seems a fix is in order then? At least have the war carry over but in a new alliance right. |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.25 18:23:00 -
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Tippia wrote:svenska flicka wrote:Well then I do sympathize, seems a fix is in order then? At least have the war carry over but in a new alliance right. Nah. They specifically wanted to avoid that so that you can't GÇ£sneakGÇ¥ in a lot of free support on the aggressor side. The issue would rather be the copying of the aggressor and/or mutuality flags, and even those are iffy as far as issues go. The actual problem here is that they apparently can't get the other side to react to (and, preferably, agree to) an offer of surrender.
Maybe make the mutual war just carry over to corp but not whole alliance? Yeah, this is a not easy to figure out, maybe the OP just chewed more than he could swallow and he needs to face it and just wait or pay whatever they ask. Also wondered why he decided to leave just as war became mutual? I am all over the place on this one, sympathy or no sympathy, that is the question  |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2012.10.25 18:28:00 -
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teroarea wrote:Weaselior wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:I'll have to brush up on the mechanics involved in a mutual war dec, but if I remember correctly they need some improvement in regards to this specific issue. Perhaps instead of a mutual war dec being free instead both sides might pay a reduced fee (one that cannot be automatically paid)... which would help to keep totally inactive corps from pulling stuff like this. The defender would still have the option to lock in the aggressor, but would have to pay a modest fee for the privilege, as well as take responsibility for manually paying the fee. They're not totally inactive, the guy is lying. We know this because they were alert enough to see the war and make it mutual. He's trying to make excuses to get CCP to get him out of the situation rather than pay the ransom. We made the surrendering offer but nowbody is online to accept it
Maybe they will be online this weekend, or person with ability to accept. |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2012.10.25 18:45:00 -
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teroarea wrote:svenska flicka wrote:Tippia wrote:svenska flicka wrote:Well then I do sympathize, seems a fix is in order then? At least have the war carry over but in a new alliance right. Nah. They specifically wanted to avoid that so that you can't GÇ£sneakGÇ¥ in a lot of free support on the aggressor side. The issue would rather be the copying of the aggressor and/or mutuality flags, and even those are iffy as far as issues go. The actual problem here is that they apparently can't get the other side to react to (and, preferably, agree to) an offer of surrender. Maybe make the mutual war just carry over to corp but not whole alliance? Yeah, this is a not easy to figure out, maybe the OP just chewed more than he could swallow and he needs to face it and just wait or pay whatever they ask. Also wondered why he decided to leave just as war became mutual? I am all over the place on this one, sympathy or no sympathy, that is the question Even we have left the alliance they have the oportunity within 24 hours to make the war mutual......when we have exited the alliance the war was not mutual
Maybe that showed weakness and they thought, ha, they are running, let's make it mutual. But how is this not your fault though? |
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